Presented as part of Sydney Ideas, the University of Sydney’s public talks program, ‘What art ought to be’ invited Professor Deborah Cheetham Fraillon AO, Michael Dagostino and Mindy Meng Wang to participate in a conversation hosted by Jess Scully around what’s next for the arts in Australia. The discussion occurred at a time when the country had recently voted “no” in the Voice to Parliament referendum. Meanwhile the arts sector is starting to see the backbone of the new arts and cultural policy begin to form.